tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33891985.post4432283879925555371..comments2020-02-21T07:09:55.124+00:00Comments on Chipping Away At Churchianity: Crunchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00218148147949487600noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33891985.post-30429164303041358802008-12-05T03:31:00.000+00:002008-12-05T03:31:00.000+00:00Are people really arguing over whether Obama is th...Are people really arguing over whether Obama is the antichrist or not? Or are they expressing concerns that at the same time this guy who framed his campaign in Messianic tone gets elected the same country that elected him is moving to socialism and giving more power not only to the Fed but to the World Bank also. Isn't it that they are expressing concerns that the financial crisis may result in a single currency for the world, and that there have been hints in that direction from the Fed, timed conveniently about the same time as the self proclaimed Messiah who promises to heal the earth and lower sea levels gets elected? The fact is that Obama probably isn't a dynamic enough speaker to be the antichrist since he uses uh way too much. Neverthless I wouldn't classify people expressing their fears as arguing. Maybe I just don't know the people you know. Personally I have more sympathy even for people who may be arguing strongly that he is the antichrist than for those who appear to be defending a man that clearly is a threat to our nation at least on the abortion front. That's all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33891985.post-53780882453991875362008-12-04T07:08:00.000+00:002008-12-04T07:08:00.000+00:00Thank you for your comments. What concerns me is ...Thank you for your comments. What concerns me is that you have read my post but seem to have missed the main point. Whether Obama is an antichrist or not is immaterial. There have been many who could be so labelled (Nero, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Bin Laden..) Yes we need to be suspicious of worldly leaders because they are flawed. In essence, I have little faith in the political system because it is run by human beings who are all ultimately vulnerable to corruption when power is theirs. I agree that abortion is a great sin and do not like that aspect of Obama's policies, but at the end of the day, Christians need to concentrate on EVANGELISM not POLITICAL WRANGLES. That is the point I was making. Jesus' last words to his followers was to send them out to tell the world about him. People looked to Jesus to overthrow the corrupt government of the day, instead he died for us on a cross..Humanity needs to know why he did that, if they are ever going to choose to follow him and not a politician like Obama (or Clinton, or McCain) If we enter into pointless arguments then people will percieve Christianity as yet another political machine. IMO Christians should be involved in political justice issues but we MUST be careful that our focus is never dislodged from telling people about Christ. That should be our concern.Crunchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218148147949487600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33891985.post-20082702174410202942008-12-04T03:34:00.000+00:002008-12-04T03:34:00.000+00:00Obviously those who label Obama as THE antichrist ...Obviously those who label Obama as THE antichrist with no room for doubt and try to prove it by Scripture are loons. However, (and you're clearly an Obama supporter, so I fully expect an irrational response) you have to admit that Obama framed his campaign in Messianic terms from the the time that he won the primary on. Why? What was he trying to do? Why did he claim in his acceptance speech upon winning the Democrat primary that we would look back on that day (the day of his primary nomination) as the day "the earth began to heal"? Why would we look back on that day, as he said we would, as the day we "began to care for the poor" and as the day that "the oceans ceased to rise"? He was clearly claiming some sort of Messianic or God-like power. This continued in the media coverage for the duration of the campaign. And all the God-hating liberals who love to bash Christianity were asking the opposite question, not "is Obama the Antichrist?" but rather "is Obama the Messiah?" There's a blog dedicated to the loony news coverage where reporters try to frame Obama either as the Messiah or some sort of spiritual guru <A HREF="http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/</A> The fact is that Chris Matthews the NBC news anchor (see <A HREF="http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/2008/02/christopher-matthews-this-is-new.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>) said of Obama's campaign "This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament. This is surprising." This is the sort of stuff that raises suspicions that he could be the antichrist--namely that unbelievers think he could be the Christ! But, there are (as John says) many antichrists already, not just one. And Obama even fits the classical description of denying the incarnation of Christ in my opinion, as do all pro-abortionists claiming to be Christian. Jesus' incarnation began at his conception in Mary's womb, and during her first trimester of pregnancy the "fetus" (Jesus) in her womb was recognized as Lord by the "fetus" (John the Baptist) in her cousin Elizabeth's womb so that John lept in the womb upon Mary's visit to Elizabeth's house. (Luke 2:21) Therefore, when politicans who claim to be Christian makes statements that they do not know when life begins, they deny the incarnation of Christ and prove themselves to be classical antichrists denying that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Such are both Hillary Clinton ad Obama, and Nazi Peloci too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com